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Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
-Tig
 
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
-Tig
 
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
-Tig
 
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
-Tig
 
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
-Tig
 
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
-Tig
 
Tigger said:
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
Relax Tigger, my post was mostly a joke. Infact I thought you'd get a kick out of "Tiggerpedia". And you're right, I haven't followed the case at all, but forgive me if I don't use your post as my only source of information on this or any other subject. The question to you is, why didn't you just provide a link to wikipedia which gives a pretty good summary and feel obligated to write one yourself?

- Mike
 
Tigger said:
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
Relax Tigger, my post was mostly a joke. Infact I thought you'd get a kick out of "Tiggerpedia". And you're right, I haven't followed the case at all, but forgive me if I don't use your post as my only source of information on this or any other subject. The question to you is, why didn't you just provide a link to wikipedia which gives a pretty good summary and feel obligated to write one yourself?

- Mike
 
Tigger said:
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
Relax Tigger, my post was mostly a joke. Infact I thought you'd get a kick out of "Tiggerpedia". And you're right, I haven't followed the case at all, but forgive me if I don't use your post as my only source of information on this or any other subject. The question to you is, why didn't you just provide a link to wikipedia which gives a pretty good summary and feel obligated to write one yourself?

- Mike
 
Tigger said:
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
Relax Tigger, my post was mostly a joke. Infact I thought you'd get a kick out of "Tiggerpedia". And you're right, I haven't followed the case at all, but forgive me if I don't use your post as my only source of information on this or any other subject. The question to you is, why didn't you just provide a link to wikipedia which gives a pretty good summary and feel obligated to write one yourself?

- Mike
 
Tigger said:
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
Relax Tigger, my post was mostly a joke. Infact I thought you'd get a kick out of "Tiggerpedia". And you're right, I haven't followed the case at all, but forgive me if I don't use your post as my only source of information on this or any other subject. The question to you is, why didn't you just provide a link to wikipedia which gives a pretty good summary and feel obligated to write one yourself?

- Mike
 
Tigger said:
Glaucus said:
Tigger said:
Oh mine is very accurate.
How silly of me to challenge the contents of www.Tiggerpedia.com!

- Mike

Mike as usual doesnt want to talk facts. Someone says 690K tons of flour are needed for palastine each day, and he's on the palastine side so he believes they need a ton of flour each per day to survive and is upset that we are making fun of that ludicrous number. Now I point out facts on a case and Mike gets upset. If you have a point, and want to make it, great, do it. But to be honest, WHO? is what you probably checked above for the Poll so I have been following this case alot longer then you.
Relax Tigger, my post was mostly a joke. Infact I thought you'd get a kick out of "Tiggerpedia". And you're right, I haven't followed the case at all, but forgive me if I don't use your post as my only source of information on this or any other subject. The question to you is, why didn't you just provide a link to wikipedia which gives a pretty good summary and feel obligated to write one yourself?

- Mike
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Yes. This is very much the view that the administration has put about. It is what has spread through the right-wing echo chamber and yet this is absent the fact that she hasn't been able to actually say anything because she has been gagged and the senate subcommittee never recalled her to give her information with immunity. Basically, no-one has been willing to let her actually give her information. This has been going on for over six years now. Rather than being a case of how not to blow the whistle it's more a case of whistleblower protection was a total sham, i.e. there IS no way to blow the whistle if you are blowing the whistle on power.

First of all Fluffly, I work on classified projects, as does Lee, ask him if you wont believe me, how many people they've hired to work on a classified project who werent currently working on a classified project that they interviewed, vetted and hired in less then 9 days. Thats the problem, big issue, they hired a bunch of people because of the attack who wouldnt have been hired or who would have been much better trained in other circumstances. Given her side of the story as presented on CSPAN during those really boring times I talked about above, if I totally believed she was telling the truth about what happened as her upper supervisor, I would still have fired her. Thats the problem, she believed (and apparently several of you believe) that because others were performing poorly or even illegally that it was ok for her to break the law to try and stop the others. I totally believe some of her story was true, but she could have done it the right way, she didnt, she didnt believe they had time for the system to do what it is supposed to do, so she circumvented it and was punished for it. I'm perfectly ok with that, thats not what the whistleblower act is about and she didnt act legally in her whistleblower actions.
-Tig
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Yes. This is very much the view that the administration has put about. It is what has spread through the right-wing echo chamber and yet this is absent the fact that she hasn't been able to actually say anything because she has been gagged and the senate subcommittee never recalled her to give her information with immunity. Basically, no-one has been willing to let her actually give her information. This has been going on for over six years now. Rather than being a case of how not to blow the whistle it's more a case of whistleblower protection was a total sham, i.e. there IS no way to blow the whistle if you are blowing the whistle on power.

First of all Fluffly, I work on classified projects, as does Lee, ask him if you wont believe me, how many people they've hired to work on a classified project who werent currently working on a classified project that they interviewed, vetted and hired in less then 9 days. Thats the problem, big issue, they hired a bunch of people because of the attack who wouldnt have been hired or who would have been much better trained in other circumstances. Given her side of the story as presented on CSPAN during those really boring times I talked about above, if I totally believed she was telling the truth about what happened as her upper supervisor, I would still have fired her. Thats the problem, she believed (and apparently several of you believe) that because others were performing poorly or even illegally that it was ok for her to break the law to try and stop the others. I totally believe some of her story was true, but she could have done it the right way, she didnt, she didnt believe they had time for the system to do what it is supposed to do, so she circumvented it and was punished for it. I'm perfectly ok with that, thats not what the whistleblower act is about and she didnt act legally in her whistleblower actions.
-Tig
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Yes. This is very much the view that the administration has put about. It is what has spread through the right-wing echo chamber and yet this is absent the fact that she hasn't been able to actually say anything because she has been gagged and the senate subcommittee never recalled her to give her information with immunity. Basically, no-one has been willing to let her actually give her information. This has been going on for over six years now. Rather than being a case of how not to blow the whistle it's more a case of whistleblower protection was a total sham, i.e. there IS no way to blow the whistle if you are blowing the whistle on power.

First of all Fluffly, I work on classified projects, as does Lee, ask him if you wont believe me, how many people they've hired to work on a classified project who werent currently working on a classified project that they interviewed, vetted and hired in less then 9 days. Thats the problem, big issue, they hired a bunch of people because of the attack who wouldnt have been hired or who would have been much better trained in other circumstances. Given her side of the story as presented on CSPAN during those really boring times I talked about above, if I totally believed she was telling the truth about what happened as her upper supervisor, I would still have fired her. Thats the problem, she believed (and apparently several of you believe) that because others were performing poorly or even illegally that it was ok for her to break the law to try and stop the others. I totally believe some of her story was true, but she could have done it the right way, she didnt, she didnt believe they had time for the system to do what it is supposed to do, so she circumvented it and was punished for it. I'm perfectly ok with that, thats not what the whistleblower act is about and she didnt act legally in her whistleblower actions.
-Tig
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Yes. This is very much the view that the administration has put about. It is what has spread through the right-wing echo chamber and yet this is absent the fact that she hasn't been able to actually say anything because she has been gagged and the senate subcommittee never recalled her to give her information with immunity. Basically, no-one has been willing to let her actually give her information. This has been going on for over six years now. Rather than being a case of how not to blow the whistle it's more a case of whistleblower protection was a total sham, i.e. there IS no way to blow the whistle if you are blowing the whistle on power.

First of all Fluffly, I work on classified projects, as does Lee, ask him if you wont believe me, how many people they've hired to work on a classified project who werent currently working on a classified project that they interviewed, vetted and hired in less then 9 days. Thats the problem, big issue, they hired a bunch of people because of the attack who wouldnt have been hired or who would have been much better trained in other circumstances. Given her side of the story as presented on CSPAN during those really boring times I talked about above, if I totally believed she was telling the truth about what happened as her upper supervisor, I would still have fired her. Thats the problem, she believed (and apparently several of you believe) that because others were performing poorly or even illegally that it was ok for her to break the law to try and stop the others. I totally believe some of her story was true, but she could have done it the right way, she didnt, she didnt believe they had time for the system to do what it is supposed to do, so she circumvented it and was punished for it. I'm perfectly ok with that, thats not what the whistleblower act is about and she didnt act legally in her whistleblower actions.
-Tig
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Yes. This is very much the view that the administration has put about. It is what has spread through the right-wing echo chamber and yet this is absent the fact that she hasn't been able to actually say anything because she has been gagged and the senate subcommittee never recalled her to give her information with immunity. Basically, no-one has been willing to let her actually give her information. This has been going on for over six years now. Rather than being a case of how not to blow the whistle it's more a case of whistleblower protection was a total sham, i.e. there IS no way to blow the whistle if you are blowing the whistle on power.

First of all Fluffly, I work on classified projects, as does Lee, ask him if you wont believe me, how many people they've hired to work on a classified project who werent currently working on a classified project that they interviewed, vetted and hired in less then 9 days. Thats the problem, big issue, they hired a bunch of people because of the attack who wouldnt have been hired or who would have been much better trained in other circumstances. Given her side of the story as presented on CSPAN during those really boring times I talked about above, if I totally believed she was telling the truth about what happened as her upper supervisor, I would still have fired her. Thats the problem, she believed (and apparently several of you believe) that because others were performing poorly or even illegally that it was ok for her to break the law to try and stop the others. I totally believe some of her story was true, but she could have done it the right way, she didnt, she didnt believe they had time for the system to do what it is supposed to do, so she circumvented it and was punished for it. I'm perfectly ok with that, thats not what the whistleblower act is about and she didnt act legally in her whistleblower actions.
-Tig
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Yes. This is very much the view that the administration has put about. It is what has spread through the right-wing echo chamber and yet this is absent the fact that she hasn't been able to actually say anything because she has been gagged and the senate subcommittee never recalled her to give her information with immunity. Basically, no-one has been willing to let her actually give her information. This has been going on for over six years now. Rather than being a case of how not to blow the whistle it's more a case of whistleblower protection was a total sham, i.e. there IS no way to blow the whistle if you are blowing the whistle on power.

First of all Fluffly, I work on classified projects, as does Lee, ask him if you wont believe me, how many people they've hired to work on a classified project who werent currently working on a classified project that they interviewed, vetted and hired in less then 9 days. Thats the problem, big issue, they hired a bunch of people because of the attack who wouldnt have been hired or who would have been much better trained in other circumstances. Given her side of the story as presented on CSPAN during those really boring times I talked about above, if I totally believed she was telling the truth about what happened as her upper supervisor, I would still have fired her. Thats the problem, she believed (and apparently several of you believe) that because others were performing poorly or even illegally that it was ok for her to break the law to try and stop the others. I totally believe some of her story was true, but she could have done it the right way, she didnt, she didnt believe they had time for the system to do what it is supposed to do, so she circumvented it and was punished for it. I'm perfectly ok with that, thats not what the whistleblower act is about and she didnt act legally in her whistleblower actions.
-Tig
 
Tigger said:
he's on the palastine side

What does this actually mean? Do you think he's happy when some nutcase blows himself up in restaurant, in the name Palestine? Somehow I doubt it.

Are you "on the Israeli side"?

This simplistic, "black and white" view that you and so many others adopt baffles me.

It applies to political parties as well; "Our side, good or bad."
Treating world affairs like a football match.

I sometimes wonder if anyone gives a badger's about right and wrong anymore.....
 
Tigger said:
he's on the palastine side

What does this actually mean? Do you think he's happy when some nutcase blows himself up in restaurant, in the name Palestine? Somehow I doubt it.

Are you "on the Israeli side"?

This simplistic, "black and white" view that you and so many others adopt baffles me.

It applies to political parties as well; "Our side, good or bad."
Treating world affairs like a football match.

I sometimes wonder if anyone gives a badger's about right and wrong anymore.....
 
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